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I have a converted RNS-E to use the US maps. Now that there is a high possibility that a Sirius Satellite Tuner will work. I want to give it a try. I would like to know which one to get & who would have the best price? Also, please tell me everything I'll need. My setup is as follows:

2000 Audi S4
RNS-E 4B0 035 192 P


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I have moved this topic to Multimedia since it doesn't only concern the RNS-E.

The part numbers are:
8E0 057 593 Sirius without RNS-E and without tire pressure monitoring system
8E0 057 593 A XM without RNS-E and without tire pressure monitoring system
8E0 057 593 D Sirius for RNS-E and/or with tire pressure monitoring system
8E0 057 593 E XM for RNS-E and/or with tire pressure monitoring system

You have the RNS-E and want Sirius, therefore 8E0 057 593 D is the correct one for you. I heard that Audi has currently some promotion on sat receivers and you may get one for $350 from your preferred dealer. Usually the run about $450 from your dealer, Clair Parts is a little cheaper. Just make sure you get the D (Sirius) or E (XM), the other two won't work with the RNS-E.

You will need to build your own harness similar to what's described in this AudiWorld topic:
OEM SAT radio installed into '01 A6

Good luck and don't forget to post pictures when you are done :wink:
 

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1) Now does this 8E0 057 593 D come with the antenna, or is this "just" the tuner?

2)Doesn't Audi sell the wiring harness? You would think that the tuner would come with the harness.

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todd1010 said:
1) Now does this 8E0 057 593 D come with the antenna, or is this "just" the tuner?
Just the antenna
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2)Doesn't Audi sell the wiring harness? You would think that the tuner would come with the harness.
Not that I know of. The sat radio wiring is part of the main harness going to the back, you will need to build your own or re-use the CDC wires like that NSX guy did.
 

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I looked at the link you provided and he said that he made that harness without ever wanting/needing a CD Changer, Phatbox or etc. So basically he got his signal from the CD changer cable in the back. I'm using a Phatbox and want to retain that functionality. I want to just wire it up like a factory setup.

Where would I be able to find the wires and what's needed to make/buy the harness to plug directly in the back of the RNS-E?
 

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You have to get CAN-high/-low from the RNS-E to the back. This has to be a twisted wire, something like 5-6 twists per inch or so. If you already have the CDC in the back you have the CDC Audio wires where you need them. And you need some power and the plugs. I don't see how else you could do this without building your own harness but maybe one of the other B5/C5 guys here has some ideas.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something here but I thought the Satellite Tuners plugged in the harness in the upper left side of the back of the RNS-E, as your facing the back? Its the harness that's all by itself.
 

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OK, the sat receiver is using the CDC Audio left/right/gnd from your HU and gets controlled via CAN-high/-low. It has an audio in for the CDC, that way you can either listen to the CDC or the sat using the CDC audio in on the head unit. The CDC gets controlled via DO/DI/CLK, and is getting 12V+ and GND though the same harness. However, the sat receiver needs more power and you can't use those wires to power both devices. You will need to disconnect the CDC from the CDC harness, get the CAN-high/-low wires from the HU back to the CDC, find some power in the back and build an adapter which plugs between the CDC and the CDC harness and connects CAN-high/-low to the sat receiver.

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The connector at the upper left side is the TV/Video connector, nothing else.
 

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I think I would much rather insall the tuner in the front somewhere, possibly behind the glove box.
 

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1) Does anyone have a pix or the "factory" wiring Sirius Tuner wiring harness and part number?

2) What about a wiring diagram for the Sirius Tuner on how it gets connected from the factory?
 

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todd1010 said:
1) Does anyone have a pix or the "factory" wiring Sirius Tuner wiring harness and part number?

Todd,
See the original link to NSX Jr (Lee H in South Carolina). There is an embedded .pdf with all the part numbers for the connector and pins/wires (can be purchased from your friendly neighborhood audi parts dept. ). The wiring is fairly simple:

1) CAN H/L (control the tuner from the RNS-E or Sym II): So you'll need to tap into those
2) Audio L/R and ground. Three wires in total. The CDC wires behind the RNS-E will support that. In fact, most people don't know this (because Lee was the first to discover it) but, the OEM SAT tuner has an audio pass through (again three wires for audio L/R ground) so you can still use your trunk CD changer or PhatBox in conjunction with the OEM SAT tuner.
3) Power and ground (find a source in the trunk).

This is all off the top of my head and I haven't read Lee's pdf in a while.

Oh...and don't forget the SAT antenna too (also covered in this pdf); no need for the OEM variety....if you don't want. :)

link to post:
http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/threads/119038.phtml#496406

Link to pdf (right click and "save as")
http://webpages.charter.net/sheandlee/sat.pdf

Good luck!

PS: I only wish my Nav+ supported the OEM SAT tuner. I've often thought about trying to experiment with the CAN lines and see if my CDC port would support this. Could you imagine the Nav+ displaying Sirius/XM tuner info? It would probably fry the unit. Oh well. Ha!!
 

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Sirius in RNS E

Please Help! I hope this isn't too stupid of a question, but I successfully reprogrammed my Euro RNS-E to the US standard last week. I had Sirius in my old Symphony II, and wanted to give it a try. Got the new Sirius module today (model 8EO 035 593 D) and installed it, replacing the old module. The RNS-E recognized the unit, and gave me a station list. Sirius was able to send a signal to the unit, and activate the service. Only problem is, NO SOUND! FM, AM, MP3 all work fine.

What am I missing? :? :?

Thanks!!
 

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See my other message. The sat receiver is controlled via CAN (which is why you can change the station and see the title) but the sound goes through the CD changer wires. If your RNS-E adapter has no CD changer support then you are missing some wires for the SAT receiver.
 
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