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Have recently purchased 2005.5 B7 S4 Avant. Imported vehicle from Japan. Was fitted in Germany with Nav plus unit which was configured to Japanese market. Navigation I believe will not work in New Zealand as there are no maps available...However would appreciate some advice on:
- can the on screen text and displays be changed from Japanese to English
- some of the buttons have Japanese letters - can I purchase buttons and replace OR has someone got a pic of what the english buttons read
- can the FM bandwidth be expanded (Japan 76-89 only) to cater for local increased FM band width
- can the TV tuner be expanded

Also the unit looks different to others I have seen pictures of...what is the correct identification or model/type. Unit flip down and has DVD slot and another smaller slot SRAM I think.

At a loss any suggestions helpful...........:-(
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The device is called RNS-J, part number should be 8E0 035 192 A and it's of no use whatsover outside Japan. There is no known way to load other software or even switch the UI to English and the only piece left usable is probably the Mini Disk player in there - if you have Mini Disks. My recomendation would be to try to sell it and get an RNS-E or after market unit.
 

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Thank you. Not good news but at least I know what I am dealing with - much appreciated. Would the RNS-E simply plugin to the existing wiring plugs or would it require a more indepth install?
 

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I have never seen pictures from the back of the RNS-J nor from the top (to see if there is a label with the pin out). Once you got the RNS-J removed, post some pictures of the back and if available from the top label. Based on that it shouldbe possible to say what kind of adapter you need to replace it with a RNS-E.
 

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AudiA4B6US said:
The device is called RNS-J, part number should be 8E0 035 192 A and it's of no use whatsover outside Japan. There is no known way to load other software or even switch the UI to English and the only piece left usable is probably the Mini Disk player in there - if you have Mini Disks. My recomendation would be to try to sell it and get an RNS-E or after market unit.
Is really a widely read! =D>
 

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I have never seen pictures from the back of the RNS-J nor from the top (to see if there is a label with the pin out). Once you got the RNS-J removed, post some pictures of the back and if available from the top label. Based on that it shouldbe possible to say what kind of adapter you need to replace it with a RNS-E.
Seem in the VW car, also have the same question.





 

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Looks like it's using standard ISO and mini ISO plugs for all the signals and a FAKRA plug for GPS. What's the label saying for the white and green connector? The beige plug is either HF or ZF. But in the latter case the white or green should be HF. If white and green are for TV that leaves only beige for HF.

You could get a normal Symphpony to RNS-E adapter but the you need the pin removal tool to rearange the pins based. Or you contact NSX or TeddyBGame to build a custom harness for you.
 

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Also it appears that these cars do not use an external amp at all, so you will have to code the RNS-E for linear sound (0xx1xxx). I could easily build a custom harness for you if you ever want to put the RNS-E in this car. Of course, this is a VW unit and your Audi unit may be different on this speaker arrangement.

I am also curious about the white and green fakra antennas.
 

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Hi, Lee.
Although use it may be interesting.
But question similar to s4hotdog.
If the unit function can't expand, then I am downhearted.
 

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Very informative, thanks to all. I have not removed my unit yet, since only received the vehicle last week did not have much time to experiment...but - The following functionality is working in New Zealand. CD changer (obviously), radio can actually receive most channels (those I listen to anyway) between FM and AM band (some are on AM but crystal clear), minidisc OK - so leaves TV and GPS not working. For GPS I understand from local Audi dealers that no local map exists for this unit / TV well - would be nice but not essential.

If replaced with a RNS-E I was just contemplating what I would actually gain for the cost/effort, I guess the big question is whether there are NZ maps available or if another aftermarket map could be converted? Also would gain bluetooth I guess although vehicle not originally spec for bluetooth

NAVMAN are the leaders in local aftermarket GPS and offer maps for their aftermarket unit - could these be converted to work in the RNS-E? Would RNS-E allow bluetooth hookup OR would wider conversions be required?

link to NAVMAN site: http://www.navman.com/
 

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s4hotdog said:
NAVMAN are the leaders in local aftermarket GPS and offer maps for their aftermarket unit - could these be converted to work in the RNS-E? Would RNS-E allow bluetooth hookup OR would wider conversions be required?
Simple answer to this question (which has been asked several times before) - No. Only Audi maps will work in the RNS-E.
 

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s4hotdog, I have the same problem with Jap import S4 (well, I will when I buy one. - Have done some research in the mean time though...)

Speak to Craig Patten, 027 212 3456
www.carkit.co.nz
He runs a mobile service (out of Warkworth - serving Auckland) specialising in this sort of stuff (he's done a few Audis and 7 series BMWs etc).

He reckoned about $2k to sort out the nav system. From what I can work out, he connects a new navigation unit to the back of the original system (so it runs through the Audi Nav Plus screen and is activated by the original hard-button). You use a small remote to programme the navigation system (comes with NZ maps). Not perfect (I guess you'll still have some Japanese buttons and possibly a little bit of Japanese language displayed on the screen), but potentially much better than a big screen doing not much in the middle of your dashboard! ;-)

About $500 to add bluetooth mobile connectivity, and a bit more for an iPod connector.

BTW - you can get Giltraps to reset the language to English, though from what I can work out, you'll still be stuck with some Japanese (so not entirely sure what it'll acheive, but the mechanic there (the useful German chap) seemed pretty receptive to giving it a crack.

Would be interested to hear how you get on.
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Hi, I'm new to this but I also have a similar problem. Bought a A4 2.0T Quattro import which came with the RNS-JP3. Have managed to pull it out and take some photos of the wiring, etc. Also have the wiring diagram from Bentleys manual. Will post these shortly.

Have bought a 2007 RNS-E unit from Europe which is due to arrive shortly. Got a few questions:
A) Does anyone know if the RNS-E adapter/harness will work, or do I have to rearrange all the wires?
B) I noticed that the 32-pin (t32f) wiring connector is configured slightly differently on the RNS-JP3 versus the RNS-E. Is this actually used on the RNS-E?

Finally, for those living in Auckland, NZ, I have a copy of VAG-COM & cable. Used this to program my Cruise Control retrofit.
 

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Yay, my RNS-E has arrived. I need to do rearrange the wires on my plug & play adapter harness, a bit of VAG-COM, and I believe things should be working. Wiring wise, the e-Bahn technical literature definitely helps!!

However, I need some advise on matching up the antenna cabling to the RNS-E. My Japanese RNS-JP3 came with 4 antenna connectors (all are Fakra), and from the e-Bahn literature they are:
Blue - GPS from Navigation System Antenna R50
Green - Antenna Selection Control Module J515 TV Connection
White - FM2 connector from Antenna Amp R24 / Left Antenna Module R108
Brown/Beige - FM1 connector from Antenna Amp R24 / Left Antenna Module R108

Other than pairing up the Blue GPS connector, I am trying to figure which of the other three connectors (Green, White, Brown) plugs into the two IF & HF Fakra connectors on the new RNS-E unit.

Is someone able to help?
 

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Since the RNS-E does not have an internal TV tuner I suggest you try the White and Brown/Beige connectors. That might not work since the RNS-E expects an HF/ZF antenna system, but it's worth a try.
 

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Thanks PetrolDave, will give it a shot.

I have another question in relation to matching up the wiring between the RNS-JP3 and RNS-E. I have the plug and play adapter harness which I bought on eBay, however, all the P&P harnesses are for the Concert/Symphony units. No major drama except that I need to rearrange a few pins on the adapter harness. For most of the wires, it's relatively straightforward to match them up. However, I can't match up the CD changer wiring. I have a standard Audi glovebox 6-disc CD changer unit.

Here is the wiring diagram for the two connectors on each unit relating to the CD changer. Ignore the ones NOT relating to the CD changer (e.g. CAN wires, BOSE, permanent positive, amp). Have matched them up to pins on other connectors.

On the RNS-E connector (T12n), we have the following:

Pin Desc
2 Signal ground from CD Changer R41
3 Speed signal (not used)
4 Permanent positive to CD Changer R41
5 L-diagnostic (K-line?)
6 CD data out to CD Changer R41
7 BOSE coding to ground (only with BOSE)
8 Left signal from CD Changer R41
9 Right signal from CD Changer R41
10 Positive switched to CD Changer R41
11 CD data in from CD Changer R41
12 CD CLK from CD Changer R41

On the RNS-JP3 black connector (T20d), we have the following:

Pin Desc
1 Left rear signal to Amplifier R12
2 Right rear signal to Amplifier R12
3 Signal ground to Radio R12
4 Left front signal to Amplifier R12
5 Right front signal to Amplifier R12
6 Positive switched to Amplifier R12
7 NC
8 CAN-Bus High (Infotainment)
9 CAN-Bus Low (Infotainment)
10 CD Ground to CD Changer R41
11 CD Mute to CD Changer R41
12 Permanent positive to CD Changer R41
13 CD-TX (+) from CD Changer R41
14 CD-TX (-) from CD Changer R41
15 NC
16 Left signal (-) from CD Changer R41
17 Positive switched to CD Changer R41
18 Right signal (-) from CD Changer R41
19 Left signal (+) from CD Changer R41
20 Right signal (+) from CD Changer R41


My challenge is with the naming convention used for the CD changer wires. Does anyone have any ideas on how to match these up correctly? a) CD-TX (+) and CD-TX (-) - I assume these match to the CD data out and CD data in pins?
b) What do I match to the CD data and CD CLK pins? There is no corresponding wires on the RNS-E.
c) There are 2 sets of left and right CD signals, but only two on the RNS-E!

Final question - the CAN wires on the adapter harness are not twisted pair. Do I need fix these to prevent any signal degradation? Fyi, the adapter harness is approx. 17cm in length.

Thanks in advance!!
 

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CDC-NF GND )B2) on the RNS-E shuld be connected to both 16 and 18 on the RNS-J connector. Might be the same singal already so that connecting only one of both is sufficient. The CD-Mute wire on the RNS-J though could indicate that the CD changer for the RNS-J is not compatible with the RNS-E which would also explain why it has a CD TX(+) and CD-TX(-). What is the part number of the CD changer?
 

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Thanks. Will try your recommendation and splice the CD Left & Right Ground pins to the CDC-NF. Ok, I finally managed to pull out the CD changer today. The CD changer part number is 8E0-035-111-E.

I'm not overly concerned if the CD changer is not compatible with the RNS-E. Worst case, it means I have an excuse to swap it our for a glovebox Ipod Integration Kit. I saw these on Kufatec.
 

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I swapped out the old unit today with the RNS-E. Yay, success!!! Everything worked first time! I guess it helped having a RNS-JP3 beforehand. I only need to update a few of the adaptations (tire size, phone/no-phone, etc). Was quite lucky my rewiring of the harness adapter worked at all the first time, I was a bit worried that I was gonna end up blowing up something! Haha

Still a few more things to do but at least the RNS-E unit is working.
- I've disabled the glovebox CD changer for now. Didn't get time today to fiddle with the wiring. Still need time to work it, but hey, who needs CD's when I can now play my MP3 collection!
- I'm still getting a short to ground error on the ZF (used green Fakra). Might swap over the brown Fakra tomorrow. The white Fakra is definitely the IF connection, getting all my FM signals through this.
- the left rear speaker signal is a bit weak, not sure why. Was a loose connection on the harness, but have fiddled with the wiring, but could be the RNS-E output on that channel (I hope not!).


Many thanks to PetrolDave, AudiA4B6US and Craigyb for all your help and advice!
 
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