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Hey guys.

I'm getting desperate. I've searched and searched for the various answers I need but I've had zero luck finding any. Some get close, others leave me scratching my head.

There seems to be conflicting reports on different models and adapter requirements, what is plug and play and what is not, etc.

Here is my setup. '01 allroad. Bose system. Symphony I factory stereo.

Nav+ RNS-E Euro model. I bought this unit and all wiring from a member of this forum. He has been great in getting me the unit quickly. I hate to keep bothering him with questions so I'm going to ask them here. Hopefully my questions will lead to a bunch of answers for everyone.

Initially I heard that the unit would need trimming to fit in my car. This is not the case for my '01 allroad. Fits like a glove with no trimming.

I can plug the unit in with the cables I was sent, the unit powers up, I can play MP3s from both SD cards and MP3 cds. The problem is, I get no sound from my front speakers. I was told by the seller that I may need to move a wire from one location to another if things don't work intially. But I've heard conflicting statements. Some say if you have a Bose system that a certain wire needs to be on pin 7, others say it can't be on pin 7.

What I need to know first is this - if I VAG-COM this unit to show it's a bose unit, would that potentially fix my problem? I've tried and it doesn't - but I was wondering if I've done it incorrectly. I followed Justin's tutorial for this. If not, how do I fix this issue.

Secondly, the radio connectors on the back of the RNS-E. Which is which? I heard that you can't get AM on this unit, but I also heard you can but you need a station that lines up with the Euro standard of 9 Khz (or whatever it is). The guy sent two cables and I assumed they were for both connectors. But they both don't fit. Again, I'm confused.

Finally, on the '01 allroad, do I need to fiddle with the speed wire? I don't know what it's purpose is, I know that the '03 allroad needed modification.

BTW, I have no clue what GALA, CAN bus, etc. are. So be gentle.

I swear to do a nice long write up as soon as I can get this working. That's the catch at this point.

Thanks in advance.
 

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I did the same set-up on a 2000 A6, the problem you are having is due to the wrong adapter or the one that is missing cables. Based on a set-up that you currently have in your car now (bose, changer, phone, etc..) you will need appropriate cable. You will need to run 3 wires behind your cluster 2 of them will come with the harness (can L & can H) third one you will have to run by yourself (GALA signal) which is the cable that connects to the speed sensor signal after all that you will need to get a VAG com to recode your new Nav for correct setting.
 

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OK,

Little of that makes sense to me ... actually, none of it makes sense to me. Remember, I'm an idiot.

At this point, I just want the front speakers working. I'm sure I'll get the GPS working in due time, but the front speaker issue is killing me.

BTW, the VAG-COM codes that Justin posted, none of them seem to match up with what I've got. Some codes are even options for me. Anyone have the appropriate codes for my unit (RNS-E 4B0 035 192 P).

Should there be codes for this model and should it be different than what Justin is using?
 

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Well, I've coded it 100 times now.

I have a bose system
Allroad
Phone controls, but no phone
Multifunction steering wheel

I've tried 0519115, 0509115, 0519615, 0509615

Also, I'm getting a hum from the front speakers when the unit is on. Does that get us any closer to a solution?
 

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OK, maybe this will help.

Here are the fault codes I'm getting. Keep in mind, at this point, I have no antenna hooked up, but the GPS antenna is.

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S

Control Module Part Number: 4B0 035 192 P
Component and/or Version: RNS-E BASIC EU H44 0100
Software Coding: 0509615
Work Shop Code: WSC 17046
10 Faults Found:
00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
02261 - Media Player: Position 1 (R118)
014 - Defective - Intermittent
00856 - Radio Antenna
011 - Open Circuit
00858 - Connection: Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit
00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
011 - Open Circuit
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
02005 - Coding PIN
004 - No Signal/Communication
 

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Is the GPS Antenna working on an different navigationsystem? maybe it is broken? Because the RNS-E should be able to regonize the GPS anyway. Ist the connector thigth? Is it an Fakraconnector?

Mütze
 

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It's plugged into a blue plastic connector. When in, it's a tight fit.

I assume it's a working GPS antenna. It looked new when shipped to me.
 

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00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
011 - Open Circuit
I would say this indicates that your RNS-E is coded for non-BOSE and looking for the speakers. Do you have the brown connector in your adapter?
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For the other errors I would recommend to clear all and start over to see which come back. If you disconnect the RNS-E and reconnect it you will get all kinds or error. Some may still be there, some others may not.
 

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That's good because that's your front speakers. Now let's check the famous Bose pin: Connector B, pin 7 in the RNS-E adapter should not be connected to anything. If it is connected to ground it tells your RNS-E to turn off the internal amp which drives the front speakers.
 

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I just read the thread again and saw that you said you have a Bose system. So, in this case you don't need the brown speaker connector but you need a couple of wires going to the red 20 pin connector (from the external control connector C, the blue connector in the picture above). And the Bose pin should be connected to ground.
 

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OK, In the last several attempts, I have had something plugged into pin 7. Now, I don't. Nothing changed.

Hum coming from speakers. Unit now showing german instead of English.

In the picture, can you point out the brown connector? Maybe I'm confused.

I know that the factory harness has a brown connector with two pins in it.
 

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OK, I have the harness in front of me. Not sure what to look for, but I can see all the components you are talking about.

How do I know if the bose pin is going to a ground?
 

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I'm confusing myself, believe me. :oops:

The brown connector in the lower left section of the QuadLock adapter on the left side of the picture is the speaker connector A. It is not present/required on Bose adapters. The Bose system uses the line out from connector C (that's the green plug in the QuadLock). The Bose system also requires pin 7 in connector B (the blue plug inthe QuadLock) to be grounded or connected to the Bose pin in the original Symphony I harness...
 

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OK, I'm sort of understanding.

Mine has the brown connector and their are four pins in it. So, it's unneeded since I have the bose.

Do you have any idea where the bose pin is on the symphony unit?
 

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First of all - thanks for all the help.

Here are the wire placements currently on my connector C

5,6,8,11,12

5- Line out RL
6- Tel NF In(-)
8- Line out GND
11- Line out RR
12- Tel NF In(+)

From the top of the RNS-E, I can see that the line out FL (I'm assuming Front Left) is pin 3 and the line out FR is pin 9. Is that the problem?

If so, where should those wires lead?
 

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You should have a diagram on your Symphony I, if not then it could be like this:

Line out should be wired in the 20 pin connector in your car. Those line out should be connected to connector C in the RNS-E Quadlock.

Something like:

RNS-E --> Symphony
C3-FL --> LF
C5-RL --> LR
C8-GND --> COM
C9-FR --> RF
C11-RR --> RR
 

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If someone can confirm this, that would be wonderful. I don't have any extra wire to try this.

I think they end up on the red 20 pin connector. Do I just match up FR to FR and FL to FL?
 

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Great!

If I only had the wire to do it. I can totally see what you've done.

THANK YOU!!

Is there anything on the 20 pin connector I can do without? I'm looking for any extraneous wires. Also, do I even need the brown connector in there?
 
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