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I am about to attempt installing a RNS-E in my 2000 S4 but was wondering how well it is going to work. From what I have read, it looks like the clock is a problem as well as getting the speed signal to work correctly. Have these issues been remedied by anyone?

I also have a Bluetooth phone kit installed using the DB25 connector in the truck. Will this work with the RNS-E without too much drama or am I going to have a headache getting it to work?
 

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The only other person that has attempted to install it on this website is s4atlast! Unfortunately I don't know if the clock is still an issue. The way it sounded was as though the clock would work but sent an incorrect signal to the NAV unit forcing an error in the time on the Navigation system. The clock issue might not even be a problem on the North American model NAv since we dont use the radio clock that the europeans have broadcast. Then installation, once you have the correct adapters (kufatec and Ralf Deventor), is primarily plug and play (with exception of the vag-com settings). There are also issues between which versions you use. Depending on how much you read through this website, you should come to the conclusion you need the Nav unit for the A6 (primarily for the faceplate). Other issues are the color and size of the faceplate. Those modifications should be minor. Then there is the difficulty of modifying the discs for the european model. If you go with the North American model the discs can be bought through NAVTEC. Unofrtunately no one knows whether the NA edition will have most or all of the features the Eur model has such as T.V. but you will have the ability to have Sat radio. I have decided to buy the North American edition in a month or two and have successfully bought all of the wires, adapters, and antenna. If I can help with anymore information you need let me know. By the way, I forgot, I will be attempting the install on my 2001 S4.
 

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I successfuly installed the RNS-E into my 2000 S4. It works great, the only issue is the clock already mentioned. The eta time that is calculated is incorrect, but I a big deal. I also figured out how to make US dvd maps for the euro RNS-E after buying 2 differnent burners and 2 different versions of software :( but I think it was all well worth it. I will try to post pictures tonight.
 

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A couple of ??

I picked up my unit this afternoon and hooked it up to check things out. I am happy to report the BT phone kit I had works with the unit without any mods including VAG.

I am curious as to which antenna in the car is which. There are two antennas in the S4, a larger one and a smaller one. One is the radio antenna what is the second?

I am also curious as to how you went about trimming the face plate to fit. Band saw and sand paper?

Thanks for the reply. I am pretty excited to find that the wiring harness we got is truely plug and play. Although I am curious if it will have any problems with the speed signal.
 

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I think the second one is for a phone. I just used a hack saw blade very carefully. however, I recommend something a little more precise like a band saw or a dremel tool. you have to be very accurate in order not to leave any gaps. Make sure that the your harness has the speed signal wire connected. This wire was supplied to the bose radio its the gala signal as you can see on the top of the old bose radio schematic. on the RNS-E its referred to the v-signal. make sure there is a wire connected between those pins. I received my harness without it because Ralf assumed that I would not need it, but because the B5 S4 does not have the speed signal on the CAN, you must have the v signal connected. Must is perhaps to strong a word, the nav was working fine without it, but it was not updating the screen as smoothly.
 

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I checked and it is missing the GALA to v-Signal wire you were talking about. Where did you pickup the pins to make the connection?
 

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what software/hardware did you use to copy the dvd navi disks? i tried nero on my lite-on but the rns-e says it is an update disk not a map disk
 

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what software/hardware did you use to copy the dvd navi disks? i tried nero on my lite-on but the rns-e says it is an update disk not a map disk
This should be a separate discussion in the DVD/CD Maps section. You may also get more responses if you specify what exactly you are trying to do (e.g. just a plain DVD copy of the US DVD or creating a patched DVD for the EU unit). In general, you should create an image on your hard disk first (for a plain copy) or create an image containing the modified files.
 

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If anyone is interested I provided Nick with his unit and harnesses. I think he will vouch he is very happy with the quality. Hopefully today we finish off the install with vagcom and the wire for his Gala.

I can supply another set-up like Nick's (in stock I am US based) for $1400 and I can take confirmed paypal and will include ground or home fedex delivery as long as I am shipping to the mainland US.

Steve

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Make sure that the your harness has the speed signal wire connected. This wire was supplied to the bose radio its the gala signal as you can see on the top of the old bose radio schematic. on the RNS-E its referred to the v-signal. make sure there is a wire connected between those pins.
Looking at my wiring harness, it appears that the GALA pin is connected to the Bose Pin on the Nav unit. Why would that be? Should I jumper the GALA to the v-Signal pin or am I all mixed up?
 

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Looking at my wiring harness, it appears that the GALA pin is connected to the Bose Pin on the Nav unit. Why would that be? Should I jumper the GALA to the v-Signal pin or am I all mixed up?
It's all mixed up. The Bose pin has nothing to do with GALA pin. The Bose selects whether the Bose amplifier is to be used, and the GALA pin rpovides the spped signal for the speed-dependent volume feature.
 

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Looking at my wiring harness, it appears that the GALA pin is connected to the Bose Pin on the Nav unit. Why would that be? Should I jumper the GALA to the v-Signal pin or am I all mixed up?
It's all mixed up. The Bose pin has nothing to do with GALA pin. The Bose selects whether the Bose amplifier is to be used, and the GALA pin rpovides the spped signal for the speed-dependent volume feature.
We wound up relocating the pin from the Bose pin (7) to the v-signal pin (3) and the navigation works beautifully. I am wondering what should be hooked up to the Bose pin (7) on the RNS-E. Looking at the Symphony radio's pinout there is no pin for Bose like there is on the RNS-E.
 

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We wound up relocating the pin from the Bose pin (7) to the v-signal pin (3) and the navigation works beautifully. I am wondering what should be hooked up to the Bose pin (7) on the RNS-E. Looking at the Symphony radio's pinout there is no pin for Bose like there is on the RNS-E.
Strange. The Symphony II has a Bose pin.

If you don't have a Bose amplifier in the car then just leave the Bose pin unconnected. Grounding the Bose pin tells the RNS-E to output all line level (not speaker level signals) and to disable the "DSP" and GALA (that's all done by the Bose amplifier with it's built-in microphone).
 

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bfly said:
We wound up relocating the pin from the Bose pin (7) to the v-signal pin (3) and the navigation works beautifully. I am wondering what should be hooked up to the Bose pin (7) on the RNS-E. Looking at the Symphony radio's pinout there is no pin for Bose like there is on the RNS-E.
Strange. The Symphony II has a Bose pin.

If you don't have a Bose amplifier in the car then just leave the Bose pin unconnected. Grounding the Bose pin tells the RNS-E to output all line level (not speaker level signals) and to disable the "DSP" and GALA (that's all done by the Bose amplifier with it's built-in microphone).
Which pin on the Symphony radio? Check out this picture:

http://www.nav-plus.com/instructions/images/symdiag.jpg
 

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Which pin on the Symphony radio?
Connector III, pin 1 on a Symphony II.

Could be that a Symphony doesn't have a Bose pin, but a Symphony II does.
 
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