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Is there possibility to upgrade MMI 3G fw. like it is possible for MMI 2G fw. (5570) ?

Are there any upgrade CDs, or it is part of map DVD, like for RNS-E ?

Thanks

I know MMI 2G and RNS-E, but no experience with MMI 3G yet.
 

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Yes MMI 3G can be updated via CD like the old 2G but only the internal Firmware not the MAPS
The procedure it's quite the same of 2G system (SETUP+RETURN)
AUDI did 2 Update CDs
P.N. 8R0 906 961
P.N. 8R0 906 961 J
and the latest one should be coming out with the
P.N. 8R0 906 961 N
but it seems they have stopped it because there are some problems to solve at this moment.
 

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Thanks. Do you know the fw numbers like was 5570 for MMI2G, because I want to know, which version is in the car, before I spend money for update CD, although it's 2,50 EUR only.
 

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I believe that the correspondance of the 8R0 906 961 is the vers. EU_K0016_D1 and for the 8R0 906 961J is the vers. EU_K0022_2_D1.
Obviously I don't know the version of the new 8R0 906 961 N.
In MMI 3G pressing SETUP under the CAR menu you will find the info of the installed MMI version.
 

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The End Customer can ask informations to his AUDI dealer which can certainly be informed by the ELSA 's TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) or He can subscribe to Elsa directly or to Ebahn for the US market (cheaper).
Obviously there are a lot of Audi Dealers which suggest you to change the car just to have the latest FW.:lol:
 

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So there is no need to go to Audi dealer to activate it by VAS through SVM, if I understand it right (like for maps upgrade). Correct ?
 

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So there is no need to go to Audi dealer to activate it by VAS through SVM, if I understand it right (like for maps upgrade). Correct ?
Yes correct
 

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Well, the system has been updated...and the DAB is not recognized anymore :(
 

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Well, the system has been updated...and the DAB is not recognized anymore :(
What do you mean exactly?
System version?
Update Cd?
 

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EU_K0022_2_D1 --> 8R0 906 961 J

Few things needed update, the DAB one of them.

Now it is gone and even after deleting all the DTCs via VCDS it is gone. I am sure I have seen a window at the end of the update with SVM written on it, so I wonder if that is needed after the upgrade. Pity I could not read it completely because the MMI rebooted
 

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EU_K0022_2_D1 --> 8R0 906 961 J

Few things needed update, the DAB one of them.

Now it is gone and even after deleting all the DTCs via VCDS it is gone. I am sure I have seen a window at the end of the update with SVM written on it, so I wonder if that is needed after the . Pity I could not read it completely because the MMI rebooted
Very strange indeed because I used that CD to adjust the firmware of my DAB and it is perfectly working after those updates.
Anyway at the end of the update I. Don't remember SVM requests
 

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My 670 has been always a little bit strange and the DAB as well.

I have another 670B and got another o61 radio, I will try to swap them and see if there is any changes/improvements.
 

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Yes MMI 3G can be updated via CD like the old 2G but only the internal Firmware not the MAPS
The procedure it's quite the same of 2G system (SETUP+RETURN)
AUDI did 2 Update CDs
P.N. 8R0 906 961
P.N. 8R0 906 961 J
and the latest one should be coming out with the
P.N. 8R0 906 961 N
but it seems they have stopped it because there are some problems to solve at this moment.
In ETKA 817 there are also 8R0 906 961 P, Q, R, S, maybe someone would know, which is for MMI 3G with HDD, if anyone is.
 

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No only the 8R0 906 961 N is for the MMI PLUS EUROPE (with HDD) and it is actually stopped cause it seems that the MMI update damages the Bt module on the 5F unit. Anyway Here the complete list:

CDs for MMI3G-Softwareupdates:

MMI Navigation Plus (7T6): 8R0 906 961 N SVM-Code: 3GHEU029
MMI Navigation (8DP & 7T2): 8R0 906 961 P SVM-Code: 3GBEU029
MMI Radio Plus (8DP & 7Q0): 8R0 906 961 Q SVM-Code: 3GREU029
MMI Radio (8DN & 7Q0): 8R0 906 961 Q SVM-Code: 3GREU029
MMI Navigation Plus (7T6) NAR: 8R0 906 961 R SVM-Code: 3GHUS114
MMI Radio Plus (8DP & 7Q0) NAR:8R0 906 961 S SVM-Code: 3GRUS114
 

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Thanks,

the problems with 961 N are probably true, because wife's new Q5 has still 961 J.

So I won't test 961 N, better to wait for new one.
 

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I don't understand why HarmanBecker BT units are always very difficult to update but they are repeating the errors done in old MMI 2G with a big difference now you cannot change only the Bluetooth hardware but the entire 5F unit
 

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Did you update software in all modules of radio, especially MAINAPP and DAB?
What is the version of software of radio now?
Hi Darek,

I will check the version later and yes, DAB and MAINAPP were updated.

Even in user defined update mode I cannot update anything because all the applications are up to date, as expected. No errors logged anywhere.

I think it's my 670 unit. I plugged in a newer 670 A from 2009, of course it is still in CP so no media works and navi is still stuck somewhere in Germany, but in the radio menu I can see a greyed-out DAB function.

I will try to swap in a newer DAB radio and have Audi remove CP soon.
 
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