[PetrolDave]

I installed the C version CD changer yesterday.

Re-coded the RNS-E from 309111 to 309113 (EU 2004 B6 S4 with Bose) to tell it the CD changer is there, and ......

it doesn't work properly.

The CD menu changes to recognise the 7 discs - 1..6 in the changer and 7 is the built-in DVD drive.

It even recognises when I have loaded an audio CD.

But I can't select a CD in the changer to play.

Any ideas?

 

[PetrolDave]

Craigyb has helped me to follow the connections that work on his A8, but without success. I've got EXACTLY the same connections that work for him.

The only conclusion I can come to is that the EU RNS-E (can't comment on the US version), won't work with the C version CD changer.

Unless of course someone out there knows different ..... :?

 

[AudiA4B6US]

If you post the part number of your RNS-E and your CD-changer as well as what cable you are using (part numebr or source), I can ask this question in one of the German boards and come back here if they have an answer. as far as I know, all glovebox changers are supposed to work with the RNS-E.

 

[PetrolDave]

If you post the part number of your RNS-E and your CD-changer as well as what cable you are using (part numebr or source), I can ask this question in one of the German boards and come back here if they have an answer. as far as I know, all glovebox changers are supposed to work with the RNS-E.

The RNS-E is an 8E0 035 192 C (bought from Sky Tougas).
The CD changer is an 8E0 057 111 C (bought from local Audi dealer).
The cable is an 8E0 051 592 (bought from local Audi dealer).
The adapter from Symphony II to RNS-E is from Ralf Deventer.

Thanks for the help, it's been a really frustrating week because,as you say, everyone is saying that all CD changers should work with the RNS-E. I'm 99.99999999% certain the wiring and coding are correct, so either it's just not compatible or the Audi dealer has sold me a dud CD changer.

I'd have a devil of a job trying to persuade him of that - it took them 3 months to get a factory fitted TV Tuner working ona 2003 B6 S4 I had - they kept saying it was the RNS-D but I was 100% convinced it was the TV Tuner. After they had changed the RNS-D under warranty and the TV Tuner still didn't work they finally believed me, fitted a new TV Tuner and hey presto it worked! I think the electronics in our cars is just too complicated for them to fault find properly. :roll:

 

[craigyb]

My changer that works with the RNS-E and RNS-D is as follows....

4B0 035 111 A

 

[AudiA4B6US]

In case you want to follow the discussion: http://navi-forum.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=17934

 

[vanduara37]

I am afraid not all glovebox changers do work with RNS-E,i fitted the nav+unit to my A4 part No 8E0 035 192 B.and it would not recognise the cd changer partNo 8E0 035 111,so i managed to get cd changer part No 8E0 057 111 BX plugged it in and everything worked perfectly with no recoding on vagcom,and while doing my homework i was assured that the only changers that would work with RNS-E were the ones ending with the letters B or C.so maybe you have yourself a faulty unit from Audi.

regards John

 

[AudiA4B6US]

Ok, some updates but no clear answer.

The glovebox changer requires GND on pin 10 of the blue mini-ISO, the changer in the trunk has a separate wire and does not need GND on pin 10.

Besides that, the "C" changer should work with the RNS-E, so should "B" and "A" and the one without a letter. The one without a letter does not work with the older RNS-D (CD based Nav+), if someone cares.

If there is a "X" at the end of the part number then the part is a refurbished exchange part. This is true for all parts VAG offers exchange parts for a lower price. Usually you cannot buy those parts without turning in the corresponding original part (e.g. turn in a "B" changer and get a refurbished "BX" back).

The message on the German board is talking about the 8E0 035 111 and newer, the 8E0 057 111 has never been discussed there.

Hope this helps,
Dirk

 

[S4atlast!]

Dave,

Are you sure the problem is not with the changer itself? perhaps defective?

 

[PetrolDave]

The message on the German board is talking about the 8E0 035 111 and newer, the 8E0 057 111 has never been discussed there.

Hope this helps,
Dirk

Thanks for trying, but since mine is the B6 A4 with the glovebox CD changer 8E0 057 111, I'm not sure it's 100% relevant. The Audi dealer tells me the 8E0 057 111 CD changer is only available in two versions, no suffix and C suffix - and only the C suffix is supposed to work with "the RNS" (whatever that means, probably the RNS-D since that's the only officially available system in the B6).

It's interesting that VAG Parts say on their website that the 2005 A4 (i.e. the B7) needs a different CD changer - I'll see if I can get them to share why they say that.

I've been thinking how to test the CD changer, and came up with this idea ... since I've connected the CD changer to the original connector I, I could temporarily put my original Symphony II back in (and recode that to recognise the external changer)?

I'm going to need solid proof before the Audi dealer who sold me the CD changer will accept it is faulty - even then they might want to see it not working in the car.

I'll try and get some time to try it over this holiday weekend (Monday is a holiday here in the UK), and post the result here.

 

[jnrdavo]

I plugged in my RNS-E (ok, it's the one for the A6, not the A4) in my B6 A4 and didn't even change any settings in vagcom and the gloebox CD changer worked first time...

Can't see what the part number is, but will when I hopefully get the correct A4 RNS-E...

 

[AvanTTix]

Besides that, the "C" changer should work with the RNS-E, so should "B" and "A" and the one without a letter. The one without a letter does not work with the older RNS-D (CD based Nav+), if someone cares.

so can anyone confirm 100% that the 8E0 035 111 [no revision] works w/ the RNS-E unit... please...

 

[PetrolDave]

It's interesting that VAG Parts say on their website that the 2005 A4 (i.e. the B7) needs a different CD changer - I'll see if I can get them to share why they say that.

VAG Parts reply regarding the 8E0 057 111 C was ...

Thanks for the enquiry about the cd player, this is the cd player to use with satnav systems in the A4 as it has the correct connecter plug.

Since the 8E0 057 111C is supplied without any cable, I don't see this as taking us forward at all.

So the question "does the 8E0 057 111 C" work with the RNS-E is also still open ... unless anyone out there can answer it (please)?

 

[PetrolDave]

I've been thinking how to test the CD changer, and came up with this idea ... since I've connected the CD changer to the original connector I, I could temporarily put my original Symphony II back in (and recode that to recognise the external changer)?

Just put the Symphony II back in, recoded it for a CD changer (i.e. from 01200 to 01202) and, ..... the CD changer works fine!

So to me it looks like there's 3 possibilities left:

1. The 8E0 057 111 C doesn't work with the RNS-E - seems very unlikely to me. This could be eliminated if anyone with a B7 A4/S4 could confirm that the CD changer in a B7 with RNS-E is an 8E0 057 111 C.

2. The adapter cable from Symphony II to RNS-E has incorrect wiring. I think this is very unlikely too - I've checked the connections 3 times visually AND for continuity using a digital meter [I'm an electronics engineer by trade].

3. My RNS-E is faulty. I think this is the most probable option. Any ideas how I can check this out (other than getting hold of another RNS-E - unless there's someone in the UK who I can borrow one from?).

P.S. How do you make the "List" thing on this forum work, I spent ages trying and gave up.

 

[craigyb]

You could borrow my working CD changer to prove that you can talk to one.

Craig

 

[skoTner]

I have just installed the RNS-E. I had the RNS-D originally, but swapped it for a RNS-E bought of eBay.

I can not get the CD-changer to work either (glovebox). It's part number is 8E0 035 111 C. It shows up on the RNS-E with 6 discs and wheter there is a disc inserted or not, but it doesn't let me choose any of the 6 discs in the changer.

Any updates in this thread?

PS:
This is a B6 Audi A4.

PS2:
Yes I reprogrammed the RNS-E in VAG-COM to think it's a cd-changer there.

 

[PetrolDave]

I can not get the CD-changer to work either (glovebox). It's part number is 8E0 035 111 C. It shows up on the RNS-E with 6 discs and whether there is a disc inserted or not, but it doesn't let me choose any of the 6 discs in the changer.

That's 100% the same problem I have.

I'd given up trying to get my CD changer to work, since it seemed like I was the only person with the problem.

Seems like there's 2 of us now.

As posted earlier I've checked the additional ground wire, and I'm even using a different Symphony II to RNS-E adapter harness now (changed when Bluetooth added). So I'm completely out of ideas.

 

[charly_holland]

i have the same problem RNS-E see CdChanger but doesn t play

hi i saw on this topic the sorry about de cd changer, i have the same problem.. after upgrade from RNS-D to RNS-E

my RNS-E is: 8H0 035 192 A
my CD changer is the 035 and extenstion CX

may some one can help ...

greetz charly

 

[Nidfix]

Hi,

I also have exactly the same problem:
RNS-E: 8E0 035 192K
and 8E0 035 111 C as changer.

The funny thing is that it displays the slot of the charger as empty when it actually is. So I do not think we experience any wiring issue.

So I guess we have to admit that it does not work with "C".

I am considering buying a "D" version. Did anyone try ?

 

[AudiA4B6US]

I think it is safe to assume that the CD changer 8E0 057 111 C/CX (which is the only one that works with the RNS-D) does not work with the RNS-E. This has now been mentioned in several topic here and on other boards. Any CD changer that works with a normal head unit as well as any CD changer emulating device (Icelink, Blitz and so on) should work fine with the RNS-E.

I would like to invite everybody to post their CD changer part number once they got it working with the RNS-E. It would be intersting to see how older changers (e.g. those mounted in the trunk or previously connected to first generation head unit) like the RNS-E.

Here's the topic about working CD changers: http://www.navplus.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=464