BT phone install done a few Q's

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · Oct 21, 2005

This B5 S4 with US-updated RNSe with BT version "B"

1)
okay so i hooked up BT version B didn't have the phone with me and things seems to be almost okay thing is i get the following screens when i press the TEL button is this right? when i connect phone will this go away and be replaced by menu as i can only scroll and do nothing else?

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DO I need a HEX-COM vag cable instead of my KEY-COM version to communicate with the tele module? I get a too many communications com error if i try to access 77. This is using new beta software from ross-tech.

3)
the RNSe so far is coded with a 6 I tried to recode to 7 but it stayed 6 should i try to recode to 2 i only had a few minutes so i didn't try it.

Unit is made by Temic, so it seems appropriate code should be 2 right?

0xxx?xx: Telephone/telematics
1 - no telephone (supply voltage for microphone actively)
2 - Mobile phone preparation (Temic - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
3 - Mobile phone preparation (Cullmann - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
4 - Mobile phone preparation (Nokia - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
5 - Telematics Europe (supply voltage microphone inactively)
6 - Telematics US (supply voltage microphone inactively)
7 - Base plate diagnostic capable with comfort control

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PROXUS

· #2 · Oct 21, 2005

The only problem that unit only accept 1 or 6. At least US unit.
I contacted tech guys from Ross Tech and they suggest to try VAS instead of VAG. They also said:

I have never done this exact procedure myself, but if you try to put in
0309231 and the controller does not accept it, then that is not a plausible soft coding for that controller.

It's pretty wierd that only TEMIC coding is unaccessible :? I will try to play more with it today.

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mickymix

· #3 · Oct 21, 2005

brianjpugh said:
This B5 S4 with US-updated RNSe with BT version "B"

1)
okay so i hooked up BT version B didn't have the phone with me and things seems to be almost okay thing is i get the following screens when i press the TEL button is this right? when i connect phone will this go away and be replaced by menu as i can only scroll and do nothing else?

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http://www.navplus.us/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=321

Well I never saw such "expanded" version of HELP file and this causes me a lot of curiosity.
Could you be more specific on which RNS-E you have (model and letter, HW and SW) and which coding and then quote also the same for the "B" BT module ??? I possible obviously...

2)
DO I need a HEX-COM vag cable instead of my KEY-COM version to communicate with the tele module? I get a too many communications com error if i try to access 77. This is using new beta software from ross-tech.

This is pretty normal for me, something never happened to others. Still obscure. You could try to enable "Skip CAN Init" on options menu and then keep on trying...

3)
the RNSe so far is coded with a 6 I tried to recode to 7 but it stayed 6 should i try to recode to 2 i only had a few minutes so i didn't try it.

BTW: have you tried some of those commands appearing on the screen, or did you just heard them ?

On coding of "B" modules, I think craigyb and AudiA4B6US are more expert...

TIA

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #4 · Oct 21, 2005

Proxus:

I contacted tech guys from Ross Tech and they suggest to try VAS instead of VAG

sorry to sound like noob but what is difference and where do I get VAS and what is it?

mickymix:

Well I never saw such "expanded" version of HELP file and this causes me a lot of curiosity.
Could you be more specific on which RNS-E you have (model and letter, HW and SW) and which coding and then quote also the same for the "B" BT module ??? I possible obviously...

i have euro 4b0 unit updated to US i belive HW is 020 or 040 firmware shows as X--- i have to check tonight and i'll post exact specs...have exact same BT module as Proxus if you look at his pics (got from clair parts)

BTW: have you tried some of those commands appearing on the screen, or did you just heard them ?

so far could not hear them they just appear when i press TEL button (again i did not have phone with me or near car as at a friend's house)

i will try to do more test today on them...thing is i did not think my version RNSe supported the voice commands - i used Kufatecx harness and KNOW i only have mic wires connected to RNSe only "once" and i thought if used speech recognition you had to have mic going in and then out of RNSe so connected 'twice'

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PROXUS

· #5 · Oct 21, 2005

sorry to sound like noob but what is difference and where do I get VAS and what is it?

Its a factory scanning tool / diagnostic system. Every dealer should have it.

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PROXUS

· #6 · Oct 21, 2005

i have a question...how did you code your TEL module?
I mean soft coding values:

I did coding for Telematics but instead "telephone is not installed" I had " please use your cell phone". No other setup screens or controll over this.

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 22, 2005

did some testing

sry not post last night but cu on fritz...

okay i ordered new HEX-com cable to replace my KEY-com as seems most succesful programming of BT module done with that.

insturment (17 channel 62)
coded for telephone insteresting thing is when added code for (+8) telematics got error saying missing telematics module but no error when coded for nav, phone, and radio so i think that is good.

radio (56)
cannot recode unit only accepts 1 and 6...i did read post by ericpeters saying needed newer software to code to 7 (euro 330 and up) perhaps we have to wait for US update --- PROXUS any thoughts?

telephone (77)
cannot access module "too many communications" error...will try tomorrow with new HEX cable

also have not tried with phone yet going to pick up from friend's tonight - on that what should i expect to see and what do i have to do to connect.
1) will phone recognize autommatically
2)do i have to enter default security code (1234)?
3) any basic instructions/advice?

thanks again

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PROXUS

· #8 · Oct 22, 2005

radio (56)
cannot recode unit only accepts 1 and 6...i did read post by ericpeters saying needed newer software to code to 7 (euro 330 and up) perhaps we have to wait for US update --- PROXUS any thoughts?

I have access to US unit with s/w 0040 but still no access to coding enything else besides 1 or 6. EU unit with 0360 worked fine.

Unit is pairing and play sound via speakers but no screen controls.

to pair your phone you need to enable bluetooth and look for devices.
1) it will recognize Audi module automatically
2) you need to enter pass key to make pairing automatic nfor next time
3) nope :lol:

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #9 · Oct 22, 2005

proxus

Proxus thanks for info a couple Q's

so you have working phone only issue is your display is showing only 1 screen with none of the menus correct?

when no phone is present does it say "phone not available"?

can you access a help menu like the one isee when i press TEL button (pics above)?

Is it possible for a 4B0 unit to use voice controls (it seems i could rewire it to support but will unit itself)?

also what VAG cable do you use when connecting to telephone HEX-COM?

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PROXUS

· #10 · Oct 22, 2005

so you have working phone only issue is your display is showing only 1 screen with none of the menus correct?

YES

what VAG cable do you use when connecting to telephone HEX-COM?

I use HEX-COM-USB with 5.10 beta.
I think EU units

can you access a help menu like the one isee when i press TEL button (pics above)?

Is it possible for a 4B0 unit to use voice controls (it seems i could rewire it to support but will unit itself)?

I don't think so

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 25, 2005

new HEX-COM vag cable and i can connect to phone module

so i recoded it but no change...the more i look at menu it seems if i could say cancel it would "Return to Ready" however it is not picking up my voice.

So my questions - TIA:

is would software play any part in this? I have 4bo unit with hardware version 44 and software is US update of euro so shows xxx. ANy idea when new US dvd will be released?

would it make sense to connect mic through RNS-e or does mic input go directly to BT module? i am going to try and coonect directly to mic and see if that helps at all but not getting errors so i assume it is conected okay.

any other ideas?

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PROXUS

· #12 · Oct 25, 2005

Mic need to be connecte to TEL interface.
By the way ...is your TEL interface flashed / coded?

Can you tell me what is your ADVANCED ID coding of the module?

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 25, 2005

i can get coding tonight about 5p PST

I will post advanced ID info tonight but anything to look for when i get it?

so on mic i have connected direct to BT right now but am going to try new mic tonight (have extra one) and see what happens. DO you think bad mic might cause issue?

on running mic through RNSe that is just idea i had not sure if even possible yet with my unit.

btw coded unit succesfully i believe 0010777 but no luck and even changed things aroudn a bit still no luck

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brianjpugh

Discussion Starter · #14 · Oct 26, 2005

PROXUS here is advnaced ID screenshot (looks like my unit made 11 before yours)

btw can connect BT phone shows up in DIS okay (no number just call/end call/BT on/BT off) cannot seem to transfer phone book - what do i do thanks?

still shows full voice menu on RNSe - think i should try to run mic through it and see if recognizes commands as mic is working b/c made phone calls

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