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With word from Germany that VW and Audi are testing new battery packs (more powerful, but still fit under the second seats in A3 e-trons), current owners should be allowed to upgrade their packs to take advantage of over 60km all electric range, rather than our current 30km or less. Below are articles speaking to the battery pack upgrades (use Google Translate if you don't speak German):

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de...assat-plug-in-hybrid-batterie-reichweite-ccs/
Der 1.4 TSI darf in Rente gehen
Im Alltag der Kunden dürfte sich die geplante Erweiterung der Batteriekapazität stärker bemerkbar machen als der neue Verbrenner. VW hat angekündigt, die Speicherkapazität des Lithium-Ionen-Akkus zu verdoppeln. Dementsprechend soll sich auch die elektrische Reichweite der Fahrzeuge erhöhen. Über 100 Kilometer dürften dann also, auch nach der realitätsnäheren WLTP-Norm, in den Datenblättern stehen. Fortschritte in der Batteriezelltechnologie und im Packaging machen es möglich, dass die größere Batterie im gleichen Gehäuse wie bisher untergebracht wird.


https://www.fuhrpark.de/premiere-2023-vw-entwickelt-plug-in-hybride-weiter
Plug-in-Hybride von VW: Ab 2023 bis zu 100 Kilometer rein elektrisch
Und das ist nicht die letzte PHEV-Generation aus Wolfsburg. Wie VW jetzt mitteilte, arbeiten die Ingenieure am Mittellandkanal eifrig an der Weiterentwicklung der Plug-in-Hybride. Mehr Reichweite und kürzere Ladezeiten lautet das Ziel, zu rechnen ist damit aber nicht vor 2023. Bis zu 100 Kilometer sollen viele VW-Plug-in-Hybride dann rein elektrisch fahren, das Plus an Reichweite resultiert unter anderem aus einer deutlich größeren Batterie. Derzeit fasst der Akku in den Plug-in-Hybriden auf MQB-Basis netto 10,4 kWh Strom, ab 2023 sollen es 25 bis 30 kWh sein.

After reading these articles, I contacted Audi in Germany, but was referred back to Audi USA. Maybe someone else here on the forum will be able to get through to someone who is authorized to at least allow testing of retrofitting the new batteries into the older vehicles. Here is the person I contacted:
To: [email protected]
Re: Will the new batteries be available for Audi A3 Sportback e-tron owners to upgrade from 8.8kWh to 25-30kWh?
 

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Hi DLA3owner !
Thanks a lot for your message ! I appear to be a french A3etron user, but I bought my car in Germany and am fluent. So I will write to them, as it happens I do have the same question as you ! I would already be happy if they could take their newer 14kWh pack to replace my 8,8 pack which is ageing, and am not sure their coming 25-30kWh pack will be the same size/form factor/voltage...
What does reassure me though is that those battery are a very standard modell : PHEV2 prismatic cells are to be found in a lot of cars including Toy prius PHEV for example. So maybe someday a battery specialist will emerge who can exchange our cells for more powerfull ones... ? Nobody knows if this will work without a software update, though...
I'll keep you informed !

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These new batteries are much more powerful and efficient than the original 25 amp hour ones in our 2017 A3 Sportback e-tron. It would be fantastic to get Audi to upgrade our current pack, but I don’t see them doing anything for current owners at all. Usually optimistic, I am very pessimistic about Audi.
 

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Tried to raise this to Audi Germany as you did Just to see if any progress was made since your post DLA3owner. A very polite response once beyond the automated referrals to UK Audi.

"Thank you for contacting Andrew Doyle.

As Audi UK's Director, Andrew has asked me to personally investigate the matters raised and ensure that you have a dedicated point of contact. I would like to assure you that, as a member of the Executive Office, I am empowered to act on Andrew’s behalf and will of course seek to bring your concern to a resolution."


In short, the concluding message was you will only get increased capacity / upgraded batteries by buying a new car. So we are stuck in the loop of, to save the planet we cannot retrofit, but have to pay again for the most energy intensive part of the automotive industry. AKA Manufacturing new cars. Clearly the most profitable option ... said the cynic.

So back to the forum. Anyone seen any progress on 3rd party battery retrofits and software upgrades?
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Thank you for trying to get Audi Germany to consider upgrading our A3 e-tron battery packs. Their response was very similar to the one I received when Audi e-tron Connect stopped working at the beginning of 2022, due to the ridiculous decision to use G3 internet for the app, rather than G4 like the Audi already used for navigation… sorry, but you only will receive this capability if you purchase a new Audi.

We are thrilled with the regular updates we receive over-the-air for software and firmware in our Tesla Model 3. Too bad that Audi and VW treat their loyal customers so poorly. Looks like we will search for other manufacturers when we replace our A3 e-tron. Goodbye Audi!
 
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